[FUN_Mail] A Classic Set of Molecular Genetics- Electrophysiology Papers

William Grisham via FUN_Mail fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
Thu Sep 11 13:38:23 EDT 2014


Dear Colleagues:

I really like Barbara's suggestion that this thread should serve as the
basis of a JUNE article. Perhaps each nominator could write a paragraph
about the strengths of their particular nomination. Could somebody step
forward as the lead?

While I was awaiting your suggestions, I assigned my students these two
articles:



Science. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1887219> 1991 Aug
30;253(5023):1034-7.

*A difference in hypothalamic structure between heterosexual and homosexual
men.*

LeVay S
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=LeVay%20S%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=1887219>
.


and



Horm Behav. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11534967> 2001
Sep;40(2):86-92.
The interstitial nuclei of the human anterior hypothalamus: an
investigation of variation with sex, sexual orientation, and HIV status.

Byne W
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Byne%20W%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
1, Tobet S
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Tobet%20S%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Mattiace LA
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Mattiace%20LA%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Lasco MS
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Lasco%20MS%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Kemether E
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Kemether%20E%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Edgar MA
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Edgar%20MA%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Morgello S
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Morgello%20S%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Buchsbaum MS
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Buchsbaum%20MS%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
, Jones LB
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Jones%20LB%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=11534967>
.

On the former, I asked them these questions:
1) What do his data show?
2) What are possible conclusions that he provides for his data?

Here are some critiques that have been leveled at the data and their
interpretation--see if you agree:

1) INAH3 is too small to reliably measure.
2) Being gay is hopelessly confounded with being HIV+ so no conclusion
about being gay can be reached.
3) Some of the heterosexual men who died of AIDS may have been
misclassified, as in they were in the closet, so the results cannot be
regarded as valid.
4) Some of the heterosexual men who died of other causes were misclassified
and were actually gay.
5) Since LeVay is gay, he was biased and so the results cannot be trusted.

Some other conclusions that commentators have made:
1) This proves that being gay is innate/inborn.
2) This proves that being gay is NOT innate/inborn.
What aspects of his data allow for either conclusion.

The Byne paper is an attempt at a replication, and the authors state, " The
primary sexually dimorphic cellular characteristic of INAH3, neuronal
number, did not vary as a function of sexual orientation," which is not
what LeVay found.
I'm going to ask my students to take a hard look at the statistics, though,
and see if the conclusion is well justified.

Notably, in all the suggestions for the most amazing paper in neuroscience,
only one paper received a second vote. Thanks to all for their
suggestions--keep them coming and let's all write an article together!

William (Bill) Grisham, Ph.D.
Adjunct Professor
Department of Psychology, UCLA
1285 Franz Hall
PO Box 951563
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1563

(310) 825-7990
Dr.billgrisham at gmail.com

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Joseph Burdo via FUN_Mail <
fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:

> As a reminder, once you find a Dropbox or FUN home for papers that are not
> easily available, or have a pdf link for those that are, ERiN can serve as
> searchable resource for this repository.
> http://erin.sfn.org/Suggest-A-Resource will allow you to add your favorite
> classic paper, along with these great descriptions in the thread letting us
> know how and why you used the paper.
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Ilya Vilinsky via FUN_Mail <
> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
>
> > All, This is a great topic and definitely a thread worth saving. I think
> > we should start our own repository of classic neuroscience papers as a
> FUN
> > resource.
> >
> > I would add a series of papers that described a crucial link between the
> > electrophysiological propertied of neurons and the molecular mechanisms
> > (i.e. voltage gated ion channels) that make all this possible. In the
> late
> > 1980’s the Jan and Jan labs used the Drosophila Shaker mutant to pull out
> > the first sequence of a voltage gated channel. Homology cloning from this
> > sequence allowed discovery of the huge diversity of channels known today.
> > This story is a great combination of electrophysiology, molecular
> biology,
> > genetics, and evolution.
> >
> > Cloning of genomic and complementary DNA from Shaker, a putative
> potassium
> > channel gene from Drosophila.
> > Papazian DM, Schwarz TL, Tempel BL, Jan YN, Jan LY. Science. 1987 Aug
> > 14;237(4816):749-53.
> >
> > Sequence of a probable potassium channel component encoded at Shaker
> locus
> > ofDrosophila.
> > Tempel BL, Papazian DM, Schwarz TL, Jan YN, Jan LY. Science. 1987 Aug
> > 14;237(4816):770-5.
> >
> > Ion channels in Drosophila.
> > Papazian DM1, Schwarz TL, Tempel BL, Timpe LC, Jan LY. Annu Rev Physiol.
> > 1988;50:379-94.
> >
> > Molecular studies of voltage-gated potassium channels.
> > Isacoff E1, Papazian D, Timpe L, Jan YN, Jan LY. Cold Spring Harb Symp
> > Quant Biol. 1990;55:9-17.
> >
> >
> > More papers, please!
> >
> > -Ilya
> >
> >
> >
> > Ilya Vilinsky, PhD
> > Director, Undergraduate Neuroscience Program
> > Education Associate Professor, Department of Biological Sciences
> > University of Cincinnati
> > 613B Rieveschl Hall
> > Cincinnati, OH, 45221-0006
> > ilya.vilinsky at uc.edu
> > Phone: 513-556-9749
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, via FUN_Mail <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
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> > > FUN_Mail Daily DigestToday's Topics:
> > >
> > >   1. Re: Fwd: Another classic paper (Noah Sandstrom via FUN_Mail)
> > >   2. Re: Fwd: Another classic paper (Schettino, Luis F. via FUN_Mail)
> > >
> > > From: Noah Sandstrom via FUN_Mail <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] Fwd: Another classic paper
> > > Date: September 11, 2014 at 9:25:59 AM EDT
> > > To: "FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org" <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>
> > > Reply-To: Noah Sandstrom <nsandstr at williams.edu>
> > >
> > >
> > > Apologies for the repeated post, but several folks have asked for a
> copy
> > of
> > > the Brown-Sequard paper that I described. I'll attach it here as I
> don't
> > > think it is easily accessible online. I hope you enjoy it as much as me
> > and
> > > just caution you to not present it at your brown-bag lunch meeting.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Noah
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mike Wiest via FUN_Mail <
> > > fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Along the lines of the optogenetic inception paper(s) from the
> Tonegawa
> > >> lab, I just heard about these two attached from Deadwyler and Hampson,
> > >> which are similarly Matrix-like.  Essentially they are programing the
> > >> hippocampus with task-specific activity patterns to enhance memory
> > >> performance....
> > >>
> > >> Thanks all for generating this awesome list--and for links to the
> oldies
> > >> but goodies!
> > >>
> > >> Mike Wiest
> > >> Wellesley College Neuroscience
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Chiye Aoki via FUN_Mail <
> > >> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I agree with Tara and Joe. I am in the midst of forwarding this link
> to
> > >>> students who are about to defend their thesis and apply to grad
> school.
> > >>> Thank you, Joe!
> > >>>
> > >>> Chiye Aoki, PhD
> > >>> Professor of Neural Science & Biology
> > >>> New York University
> > >>> 212-998-3929 (office)    212-998-3926 (Lab)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:36 AM, White, Tara via FUN_Mail <
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> That is a wonderful pick -- And a potent weapon for our students
> > >>> grappling
> > >>>> with the 'imposter syndrome', which is my experience seems to hit
> > those
> > >>> who
> > >>>> are best positioned for creative futures in neuroscience
> > >>>> -Tara
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Joseph Burdo via FUN_Mail <
> > >>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> While a bit off topic, I would argue that if they are considering
> > >>>> research
> > >>>>> for a career, the most important paper for them to read is a more
> > >>> general
> > >>>>> methodological one: How to be productively stupid!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "
> > >>>>> "The importance of stupidity in scientific research"
> > >>>>> http://jcs.biologists.org/content/121/11/1771.long
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Joe
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Megan Hagenauer via FUN_Mail <
> > >>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Great discussion!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My contributions have a sleep/circadian slant:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dement, W.C., and Kleitman, N. (1957). Cyclic Variations in EEG
> > >>> during
> > >>>>>> Sleep and their Relation to Eye Movements, Body Motility, and
> > >>> Dreaming.
> > >>>>> EEG
> > >>>>>> Clinical Neurophysiology 9: 673-690.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "With dreaming and hypnagogie reverie assigned to a definite EEG
> > >>> stage,
> > >>>>>> there exists at least a fairly consistent relation between the EEG
> > >>> and
> > >>>>>> levels of consciousness and it becomes possible to undertake the
> > >>> second
> > >>>>>> step of considering the neural origin of these patterns as
> > >>> representing
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> basis of consciousness itself."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - This paper is long-winded (good for teaching skimming!), but it
> > >> is
> > >>>>>> excellent for starting discussions of consciousness!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Aschoff, J. (1965). Circadian Rhythms in Man. Science 148 (3676):
> > >>>>>> 1427-1432.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Since in this case I myself was the subject, I can add a few
> > >> remarks
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>>> personal feelings. After a great curiousity about 'true time'
> > >> during
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>> first 2 days of bunker life, I lost all interest in the matter and
> > >>> felt
> > >>>>>> perfectly comfortable to live 'timeless'."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - A short elegant paper, chronicling the original circadian bunker
> > >>>>>> experiments in which student volunteers (and Aschoff himself!) go
> > >>> into
> > >>>>>> isolation to experience timelessness.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ralph M.R., Foster R.G., Davis F.C., Menaker M. (1990)
> Transplanted
> > >>>>>> Suprachiasmatic Nucleus Determines Circadian Period. Science 247:
> > >>>>> 975-978.
> > >>>>>> "Small neural grafts from the suprachiasmatic region restored
> > >>> circadian
> > >>>>>> rhythms to arrhythmic animals whose own nucleus had been ablated."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - Successful *brain transplants* after which the behavior of the
> > >> host
> > >>>>>> animal is determined by the genotype of the donor.  Soooo cool!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:56 AM, DJ Brasier via FUN_Mail <
> > >>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> As a fan of teaching controversy, two sets that I especially love
> > >>> are
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> pre- vs. post-synaptic LTP:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Malinow & Tsien 1990 and Stevens & Wang 1994 vs. Kauer & Nicoll
> > >>> 1988
> > >>>> &
> > >>>>>>> Liao & Malinow 1995
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> And the equally vicious debate about alpha- vs.
> > >>>> beta/gamma-G-proteins:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Logothetis & Clapham 1987 and Reuveny & Jan 1994 vs. Yatani &
> > >>>> Birbaumer
> > >>>>>>> 1988 and Birbaumer & Brown (Scientific Correspondence in Nature)
> > >>>> 1987.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It's fun for me to tell students how both of these nearly came to
> > >>>> blows
> > >>>>>>> between the opposing sides after numerous insults were exchanged.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> DJ
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 9/9/14, 8:10 AM, Lom, Barbara via FUN_Mail wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I’m not even going to try to top Noah’s example, but this is a
> > >> fun
> > >>>>>>>> conversation so I’ll toss in a few favorites from the turn of
> > >> the
> > >>>> more
> > >>>>>>>> recent century regarding what was, at the time a controversial
> > >>>>>> assertion of
> > >>>>>>>> neurogenesis in the adult primate/human brain.  Not sure I’d
> > >> call
> > >>>>> these
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> most amazing ever neuroscience papers ever, but they are easy
> > >> for
> > >>>>>>>> undergrads to read and the contrary results reliably generate
> > >>> lively
> > >>>>>> class
> > >>>>>>>> discussions (null results published in Science).  Plus there’s a
> > >>> New
> > >>>>>> Yorker
> > >>>>>>>> article that describes some of the context for the science and
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> drama:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9809557
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10521353
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11739948
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2001/07/23/rethinking-the-brain
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Barbara Lom, PhD
> > >>>>>>>> Professor & Chair of Biology
> > >>>>>>>> Davidson College
> > >>>>>>>> Box 7118 - Davidson, NC 28035-7118
> > >>>>>>>> 704-894-2338 (office) 704-894-2512 (fax)
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.davidson.edu/academics/biology/faculty/barbara-lom
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 9/9/14, 5:36 AM, "Noah Sandstrom via FUN_Mail" <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Richard, Sam, do you really consider 1952 and 1962 to be "old
> > >>>> school"?
> > >>>>>>>> While perhaps predating what we might consider "modern
> > >>>> neuroscience" I
> > >>>>>>>> would put Brown-Séquard's *1889* article in *Lancet* ("Note on
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> effects
> > >>>>>>>> produced on man by subcutaneous injections of a liquid obtained
> > >>> from
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> testicles of animals") at the top of my list! In this paper,
> > >>>>>> Brown-Séquard
> > >>>>>>>> explores the behavioral and cognitive effects of extracts from
> > >> dog
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> guinea pig testicles when self-injected. It is a tour-de-force
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>>> reflects the passion, commitment, and fortitude we should all
> > >>> strive
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> have as scientists (how strongly do you believe in the
> > >> importance
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> questions you are asking?); it raises thought-provoking
> > >> questions
> > >>>>> about
> > >>>>>>>> quantification, methodology, standardization (what, exactly, are
> > >>>>> "great
> > >>>>>>>> powers of defecation?); and it makes clear that, as rough as
> > >> some
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>> research students may think they have it, they are way better
> > >> off
> > >>>> than
> > >>>>>>>> those of Brown-Séquard who had to measure the length of his jet
> > >> of
> > >>>>>> urine.
> > >>>>>>>> In all seriousness, though, this is the first paper I have
> > >>> students
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>> Hormones and Behavior class read. Great questions, after all,
> > >>> stand
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> test of time!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for asking this great question, Bill!
> > >>>>>>>> Noah
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Brown-Séquard CE. Note on the effects produced on man by
> > >>>> subcutaneous
> > >>>>>>>> injections of a liquid obtained from the testicles of
> > >>>> animals.*Lancet*
> > >>>>>>>> 1889;
> > >>>>>>>> 2: 105-107.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >>>>>>>> From: Richard Olivo via FUN_Mail <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>>
> > >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:14 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [FUN_Mail] Another classic paper
> > >>>>>>>> To: "fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>> "
> > >>>>>>>> <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I suppose I'm old school too, but my nominee would be Hubel and
> > >>>>> Wiesel's
> > >>>>>>>> classic paper on primary visual cortex:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hubel DH & Wiesel TN (1962). Receptive fields, binocular
> > >>> interaction
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> functional architecture in the cat's visual cortex. J Physiol
> > >> 160,
> > >>>>>>>> 106–154.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This paper made sense of what neurons in the cortex were doing
> > >> in
> > >>>>>> creating
> > >>>>>>>> the next step in visual perception, and it also revealed how
> > >> they
> > >>>> were
> > >>>>>>>> arranged anatomically. It was a major step in advancing our
> > >>>>>> understanding
> > >>>>>>>> of the mammalian brain, and it opened a huge field of research
> > >> on
> > >>>>> visual
> > >>>>>>>> processing that is still flourishing today.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Best wishes,
> > >>>>>>>> Richard Olivo
> > >>>>>>>> rolivo at smith.edu<mailto:rolivo at smith.edu>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 1:16 PM, "Gizerian, Samantha via FUN_Mail" <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Call me old school, but the paper that really blew my mind, and
> > >>>>>> continues
> > >>>>>>>> to amaze students is Hodgkin and Huxley J. Physiol. (1952) 117,
> > >>>>> 500-44.
> > >>>>>>>> (here:
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.sfn.org/~/media/SfN/Documents/ClassicPapers/
> > >>>>>>>> ActionPotentials/hodgkin5.ashx)
> > >>>>>>>> The whole series is great, but the last paper summing up the
> > >>>>> experiments
> > >>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>> really the one that is amazing.  In context of the time and
> > >>>> techniques
> > >>>>>>>> available, it is a pretty stunning achievement as well.  Not to
> > >>>>> mention
> > >>>>>>>> that finally we have the tangible connection that students are
> > >>>> looking
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>> between the physics they didn't want to learn and the
> > >> neuroscience
> > >>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>> signed up for.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sam
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> _____________________________
> > >>>>>>>> Samantha S Gizerian, PhD
> > >>>>>>>> Clinical Assistant Professor
> > >>>>>>>> Associate Director for Undergraduate Studies
> > >>>>>>>> Dept. of Integrative Physiology and Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>> College of Veterinary Medicine
> > >>>>>>>> Washington State University
> > >>>>>>>> Pullman, WA 99164-7620
> > >>>>>>>> sgizerian at vetmed.wsu.edu<mailto:sgizerian at vetmed.wsu.edu>
> > >>>>>>>> 509-335-0986
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: FUN_Mail [mailto:fun_mail-bounces at lists.funfaculty.org]
> > >> On
> > >>>>> Behalf
> > >>>>>>>> Of Mike Wiest via FUN_Mail
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:04 AM
> > >>>>>>>> To: Schettino, Luis F.
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: FUN Mail
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] FW: [Faculty for Undergraduate
> > >>> Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>> newsletter] Faculty for Undergraduate Neuroscience newsletter
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The "Inception" paper from the Tonegawa lab was the one that
> > >> came
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>> mind
> > >>>>>>>> for me too...!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>> Mike
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Schettino, Luis F. via FUN_Mail
> > >> <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Wow, this is EXACTLY what came to my mind when I read the
> > >>> question.
> > >>>> No
> > >>>>>>>> doubt this article is one of the coolest studies out there. It
> > >> is
> > >>>>>>>> incredibly creative and technically challenging. Great
> > >> suggestion
> > >>>> Ian!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Luis F. Schettino
> > >>>>>>>> Psychology Department
> > >>>>>>>> Oechsle Hall
> > >>>>>>>> Lafayette College
> > >>>>>>>> Easton, PA 18042
> > >>>>>>>> (610)330-5934
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>> From: "Ian via FUN_Mail Harrington" <
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>>> <mailto:fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: "FUN Mail" <FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> FUN_Mail at lists
> > >>>> .
> > >>>>>>>> funfaculty.org>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 9:37:16 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] FW: [Faculty for Undergraduate
> > >>> Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>> newsletter] Faculty for Undergraduate Neuroscience newsletter
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> What a great question, Bill! BTW, it sounds like a nice way to
> > >> put
> > >>>>>>>> together the perfect reading list for a seminar class. Can I
> > >>> suggest
> > >>>>>>>> either that the replies go to the whole list or that Bill posts
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>>> results?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Maybe I'm guilty of some kind of recency effect with this
> > >>> suggestion
> > >>>>>>>> since I just used it in class but if they have some interest in
> > >>>>>>>> plasticity and behavior I'd have to suggest von Melchner,
> > >> Pallas,
> > >>> &
> > >>>>> Sur
> > >>>>>>>> (2000):
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://web.mit.edu/msur/www/publications/visual.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> It was preceded by a companion paper by Sharma, Angelucci, & Sur
> > >>>>>>>> (2000) that is purely physiological:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://web.mit.edu/msur/www/publications/induction.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I suppose if you're going to publish in Nature you might as well
> > >>> do
> > >>>> it
> > >>>>>>>> in bunches!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> IH
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Calin-Jageman, Robert via
> > >>> FUN_Mail <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Here’s a thought-provoking question from Bill Grisham.  Respond
> > >>> back
> > >>>>>>>> to him directly
> > >>>>>>>> (dr.billgrisham at gmail.com<mailto:dr.billgrisham at gmail.com
> > >>>> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> dr.billgrisham at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> )
> > >>>>>>>> or back to the whole list (FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org><mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> )
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> In the course of working with undergraduates on a research
> > >> project
> > >>>>>>>> this summer, we have read relevant research articles. As my
> > >>> students
> > >>>>>>>> are wrapping up their research project, they asked to read the
> > >>> most
> > >>>>>>>> amazing neuroscience article ever. What would YOU recommend?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> William (Bill) Grisham, Ph.D.
> > >>>>>>>> Adjunct Professor
> > >>>>>>>> Department of Psychology, UCLA
> > >>>>>>>> 1285 Franz Hall
> > >>>>>>>> PO Box 951563
> > >>>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1563
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> (310) 825-7990
> > >>>>>>>> Dr.billgrisham at gmail.com<mailto:Dr.billgrisham at gmail.com
> > >>> <mailto:
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> > >>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>> MAILMAN_MIMEDEFANG
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> *Ian A. Harrington, Ph.D.*
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Augustana College, Psychology
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Director, Program in Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 639 38th St., Rock Island, IL 61201
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 011 Evald Hall, (309) 794-7243
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> > >>>>>>> MAILMAN_MIMEDEFANG
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Megan Hastings Hagenauer, Ph.D.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Post-Doctoral Researcher in the Molecular, Behavioral Neuroscience
> > >>>>>> Institute
> > >>>>>> Instructor in the Department of Psychology
> > >>>>>> University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
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> > >>>>> MAILMAN_MIMEDEFANG
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tara L. White, Ph.D.
> > >>>> Assistant Professor
> > >>>> Laboratory of Affective Neuroscience
> > >>>> Department of Behavioral and Social Sciences
> > >>>> Center for Alcohol and Addiction Studies
> > >>>> Brown School of Public Health
> > >>>> Brown University
> > >>>> Box G-S121-4
> > >>>> 121 S. Main St.
> > >>>> Providence, RI 02912
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tel: +1 401 863-6625
> > >>>> Fax: +1 401 863-6647
> > >>>> E-mail: Tara_White at Brown.edu
> > >>>> Web page: http://brown.edu/whitelab
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Schettino, Luis F. via FUN_Mail" <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] Fwd: Another classic paper
> > > Date: September 11, 2014 at 9:56:21 AM EDT
> > > To: Noah Sandstrom <nsandstr at williams.edu>
> > > Cc: "FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org" <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>
> > > Reply-To: "Schettino, Luis F." <schettil at lafayette.edu>
> > >
> > >
> > > Noah,
> > > I don't think you attached the paper. Could you give it another try?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Luis
> > >
> > > Luis F. Schettino
> > > Psychology Department
> > > Oechsle Hall
> > > Lafayette College
> > > Easton, PA 18042
> > > (610)330-5934
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Noah Sandstrom via FUN_Mail" <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>
> > > To: "FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org" <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:25:59 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] Fwd: Another classic paper
> > >
> > > Apologies for the repeated post, but several folks have asked for a
> copy
> > of
> > > the Brown-Sequard paper that I described. I'll attach it here as I
> don't
> > > think it is easily accessible online. I hope you enjoy it as much as me
> > and
> > > just caution you to not present it at your brown-bag lunch meeting.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Noah
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mike Wiest via FUN_Mail <
> > > fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Along the lines of the optogenetic inception paper(s) from the
> Tonegawa
> > >> lab, I just heard about these two attached from Deadwyler and Hampson,
> > >> which are similarly Matrix-like.  Essentially they are programing the
> > >> hippocampus with task-specific activity patterns to enhance memory
> > >> performance....
> > >>
> > >> Thanks all for generating this awesome list--and for links to the
> oldies
> > >> but goodies!
> > >>
> > >> Mike Wiest
> > >> Wellesley College Neuroscience
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Chiye Aoki via FUN_Mail <
> > >> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I agree with Tara and Joe. I am in the midst of forwarding this link
> to
> > >>> students who are about to defend their thesis and apply to grad
> school.
> > >>> Thank you, Joe!
> > >>>
> > >>> Chiye Aoki, PhD
> > >>> Professor of Neural Science & Biology
> > >>> New York University
> > >>> 212-998-3929 (office)    212-998-3926 (Lab)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:36 AM, White, Tara via FUN_Mail <
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> That is a wonderful pick -- And a potent weapon for our students
> > >>> grappling
> > >>>> with the 'imposter syndrome', which is my experience seems to hit
> > those
> > >>> who
> > >>>> are best positioned for creative futures in neuroscience
> > >>>> -Tara
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Joseph Burdo via FUN_Mail <
> > >>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> While a bit off topic, I would argue that if they are considering
> > >>>> research
> > >>>>> for a career, the most important paper for them to read is a more
> > >>> general
> > >>>>> methodological one: How to be productively stupid!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "
> > >>>>> "The importance of stupidity in scientific research"
> > >>>>> http://jcs.biologists.org/content/121/11/1771.long
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Joe
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Megan Hagenauer via FUN_Mail <
> > >>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Great discussion!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My contributions have a sleep/circadian slant:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dement, W.C., and Kleitman, N. (1957). Cyclic Variations in EEG
> > >>> during
> > >>>>>> Sleep and their Relation to Eye Movements, Body Motility, and
> > >>> Dreaming.
> > >>>>> EEG
> > >>>>>> Clinical Neurophysiology 9: 673-690.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "With dreaming and hypnagogie reverie assigned to a definite EEG
> > >>> stage,
> > >>>>>> there exists at least a fairly consistent relation between the EEG
> > >>> and
> > >>>>>> levels of consciousness and it becomes possible to undertake the
> > >>> second
> > >>>>>> step of considering the neural origin of these patterns as
> > >>> representing
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> basis of consciousness itself."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - This paper is long-winded (good for teaching skimming!), but it
> > >> is
> > >>>>>> excellent for starting discussions of consciousness!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Aschoff, J. (1965). Circadian Rhythms in Man. Science 148 (3676):
> > >>>>>> 1427-1432.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Since in this case I myself was the subject, I can add a few
> > >> remarks
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>>> personal feelings. After a great curiousity about 'true time'
> > >> during
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>> first 2 days of bunker life, I lost all interest in the matter and
> > >>> felt
> > >>>>>> perfectly comfortable to live 'timeless'."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - A short elegant paper, chronicling the original circadian bunker
> > >>>>>> experiments in which student volunteers (and Aschoff himself!) go
> > >>> into
> > >>>>>> isolation to experience timelessness.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ralph M.R., Foster R.G., Davis F.C., Menaker M. (1990)
> Transplanted
> > >>>>>> Suprachiasmatic Nucleus Determines Circadian Period. Science 247:
> > >>>>> 975-978.
> > >>>>>> "Small neural grafts from the suprachiasmatic region restored
> > >>> circadian
> > >>>>>> rhythms to arrhythmic animals whose own nucleus had been ablated."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - Successful *brain transplants* after which the behavior of the
> > >> host
> > >>>>>> animal is determined by the genotype of the donor.  Soooo cool!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:56 AM, DJ Brasier via FUN_Mail <
> > >>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> As a fan of teaching controversy, two sets that I especially love
> > >>> are
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> pre- vs. post-synaptic LTP:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Malinow & Tsien 1990 and Stevens & Wang 1994 vs. Kauer & Nicoll
> > >>> 1988
> > >>>> &
> > >>>>>>> Liao & Malinow 1995
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> And the equally vicious debate about alpha- vs.
> > >>>> beta/gamma-G-proteins:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Logothetis & Clapham 1987 and Reuveny & Jan 1994 vs. Yatani &
> > >>>> Birbaumer
> > >>>>>>> 1988 and Birbaumer & Brown (Scientific Correspondence in Nature)
> > >>>> 1987.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It's fun for me to tell students how both of these nearly came to
> > >>>> blows
> > >>>>>>> between the opposing sides after numerous insults were exchanged.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> DJ
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 9/9/14, 8:10 AM, Lom, Barbara via FUN_Mail wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I’m not even going to try to top Noah’s example, but this is a
> > >> fun
> > >>>>>>>> conversation so I’ll toss in a few favorites from the turn of
> > >> the
> > >>>> more
> > >>>>>>>> recent century regarding what was, at the time a controversial
> > >>>>>> assertion of
> > >>>>>>>> neurogenesis in the adult primate/human brain.  Not sure I’d
> > >> call
> > >>>>> these
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> most amazing ever neuroscience papers ever, but they are easy
> > >> for
> > >>>>>>>> undergrads to read and the contrary results reliably generate
> > >>> lively
> > >>>>>> class
> > >>>>>>>> discussions (null results published in Science).  Plus there’s a
> > >>> New
> > >>>>>> Yorker
> > >>>>>>>> article that describes some of the context for the science and
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> drama:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9809557
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10521353
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11739948
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2001/07/23/rethinking-the-brain
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Barbara Lom, PhD
> > >>>>>>>> Professor & Chair of Biology
> > >>>>>>>> Davidson College
> > >>>>>>>> Box 7118 - Davidson, NC 28035-7118
> > >>>>>>>> 704-894-2338 (office) 704-894-2512 (fax)
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.davidson.edu/academics/biology/faculty/barbara-lom
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 9/9/14, 5:36 AM, "Noah Sandstrom via FUN_Mail" <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Richard, Sam, do you really consider 1952 and 1962 to be "old
> > >>>> school"?
> > >>>>>>>> While perhaps predating what we might consider "modern
> > >>>> neuroscience" I
> > >>>>>>>> would put Brown-Séquard's *1889* article in *Lancet* ("Note on
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> effects
> > >>>>>>>> produced on man by subcutaneous injections of a liquid obtained
> > >>> from
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> testicles of animals") at the top of my list! In this paper,
> > >>>>>> Brown-Séquard
> > >>>>>>>> explores the behavioral and cognitive effects of extracts from
> > >> dog
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> guinea pig testicles when self-injected. It is a tour-de-force
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>>> reflects the passion, commitment, and fortitude we should all
> > >>> strive
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> have as scientists (how strongly do you believe in the
> > >> importance
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> questions you are asking?); it raises thought-provoking
> > >> questions
> > >>>>> about
> > >>>>>>>> quantification, methodology, standardization (what, exactly, are
> > >>>>> "great
> > >>>>>>>> powers of defecation?); and it makes clear that, as rough as
> > >> some
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>> research students may think they have it, they are way better
> > >> off
> > >>>> than
> > >>>>>>>> those of Brown-Séquard who had to measure the length of his jet
> > >> of
> > >>>>>> urine.
> > >>>>>>>> In all seriousness, though, this is the first paper I have
> > >>> students
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>> Hormones and Behavior class read. Great questions, after all,
> > >>> stand
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> test of time!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for asking this great question, Bill!
> > >>>>>>>> Noah
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Brown-Séquard CE. Note on the effects produced on man by
> > >>>> subcutaneous
> > >>>>>>>> injections of a liquid obtained from the testicles of
> > >>>> animals.*Lancet*
> > >>>>>>>> 1889;
> > >>>>>>>> 2: 105-107.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >>>>>>>> From: Richard Olivo via FUN_Mail <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>>
> > >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:14 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [FUN_Mail] Another classic paper
> > >>>>>>>> To: "fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>> "
> > >>>>>>>> <fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I suppose I'm old school too, but my nominee would be Hubel and
> > >>>>> Wiesel's
> > >>>>>>>> classic paper on primary visual cortex:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hubel DH & Wiesel TN (1962). Receptive fields, binocular
> > >>> interaction
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> functional architecture in the cat's visual cortex. J Physiol
> > >> 160,
> > >>>>>>>> 106–154.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This paper made sense of what neurons in the cortex were doing
> > >> in
> > >>>>>> creating
> > >>>>>>>> the next step in visual perception, and it also revealed how
> > >> they
> > >>>> were
> > >>>>>>>> arranged anatomically. It was a major step in advancing our
> > >>>>>> understanding
> > >>>>>>>> of the mammalian brain, and it opened a huge field of research
> > >> on
> > >>>>> visual
> > >>>>>>>> processing that is still flourishing today.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Best wishes,
> > >>>>>>>> Richard Olivo
> > >>>>>>>> rolivo at smith.edu<mailto:rolivo at smith.edu>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 1:16 PM, "Gizerian, Samantha via FUN_Mail" <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Call me old school, but the paper that really blew my mind, and
> > >>>>>> continues
> > >>>>>>>> to amaze students is Hodgkin and Huxley J. Physiol. (1952) 117,
> > >>>>> 500-44.
> > >>>>>>>> (here:
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.sfn.org/~/media/SfN/Documents/ClassicPapers/
> > >>>>>>>> ActionPotentials/hodgkin5.ashx)
> > >>>>>>>> The whole series is great, but the last paper summing up the
> > >>>>> experiments
> > >>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>> really the one that is amazing.  In context of the time and
> > >>>> techniques
> > >>>>>>>> available, it is a pretty stunning achievement as well.  Not to
> > >>>>> mention
> > >>>>>>>> that finally we have the tangible connection that students are
> > >>>> looking
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>> between the physics they didn't want to learn and the
> > >> neuroscience
> > >>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>> signed up for.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sam
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> _____________________________
> > >>>>>>>> Samantha S Gizerian, PhD
> > >>>>>>>> Clinical Assistant Professor
> > >>>>>>>> Associate Director for Undergraduate Studies
> > >>>>>>>> Dept. of Integrative Physiology and Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>> College of Veterinary Medicine
> > >>>>>>>> Washington State University
> > >>>>>>>> Pullman, WA 99164-7620
> > >>>>>>>> sgizerian at vetmed.wsu.edu<mailto:sgizerian at vetmed.wsu.edu>
> > >>>>>>>> 509-335-0986
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: FUN_Mail [mailto:fun_mail-bounces at lists.funfaculty.org]
> > >> On
> > >>>>> Behalf
> > >>>>>>>> Of Mike Wiest via FUN_Mail
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:04 AM
> > >>>>>>>> To: Schettino, Luis F.
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: FUN Mail
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] FW: [Faculty for Undergraduate
> > >>> Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>> newsletter] Faculty for Undergraduate Neuroscience newsletter
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The "Inception" paper from the Tonegawa lab was the one that
> > >> came
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>> mind
> > >>>>>>>> for me too...!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>> Mike
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Schettino, Luis F. via FUN_Mail
> > >> <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Wow, this is EXACTLY what came to my mind when I read the
> > >>> question.
> > >>>> No
> > >>>>>>>> doubt this article is one of the coolest studies out there. It
> > >> is
> > >>>>>>>> incredibly creative and technically challenging. Great
> > >> suggestion
> > >>>> Ian!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Luis F. Schettino
> > >>>>>>>> Psychology Department
> > >>>>>>>> Oechsle Hall
> > >>>>>>>> Lafayette College
> > >>>>>>>> Easton, PA 18042
> > >>>>>>>> (610)330-5934
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>> From: "Ian via FUN_Mail Harrington" <
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>>> <mailto:fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: "FUN Mail" <FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> FUN_Mail at lists
> > >>>> .
> > >>>>>>>> funfaculty.org>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 9:37:16 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [FUN_Mail] FW: [Faculty for Undergraduate
> > >>> Neuroscience
> > >>>>>>>> newsletter] Faculty for Undergraduate Neuroscience newsletter
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> What a great question, Bill! BTW, it sounds like a nice way to
> > >> put
> > >>>>>>>> together the perfect reading list for a seminar class. Can I
> > >>> suggest
> > >>>>>>>> either that the replies go to the whole list or that Bill posts
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>>> results?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Maybe I'm guilty of some kind of recency effect with this
> > >>> suggestion
> > >>>>>>>> since I just used it in class but if they have some interest in
> > >>>>>>>> plasticity and behavior I'd have to suggest von Melchner,
> > >> Pallas,
> > >>> &
> > >>>>> Sur
> > >>>>>>>> (2000):
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://web.mit.edu/msur/www/publications/visual.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> It was preceded by a companion paper by Sharma, Angelucci, & Sur
> > >>>>>>>> (2000) that is purely physiological:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://web.mit.edu/msur/www/publications/induction.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I suppose if you're going to publish in Nature you might as well
> > >>> do
> > >>>> it
> > >>>>>>>> in bunches!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> IH
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Calin-Jageman, Robert via
> > >>> FUN_Mail <
> > >>>>>>>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> fun_mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Here’s a thought-provoking question from Bill Grisham.  Respond
> > >>> back
> > >>>>>>>> to him directly
> > >>>>>>>> (dr.billgrisham at gmail.com<mailto:dr.billgrisham at gmail.com
> > >>>> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> dr.billgrisham at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> )
> > >>>>>>>> or back to the whole list (FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org><mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org<mailto:
> > >>> FUN_Mail at lists.funfaculty.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> )
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> In the course of working with undergraduates on a research
> > >> project
> > >>>>>>>> this summer, we have read relevant research articles. As my
> > >>> students
> > >>>>>>>> are wrapping up their research project, they asked to read the
> > >>> most
> > >>>>>>>> amazing neuroscience article ever. What would YOU recommend?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> William (Bill) Grisham, Ph.D.
> > >>>>>>>> Adjunct Professor
> > >>>>>>>> Department of Psychology, UCLA
> > >>>>>>>> 1285 Franz Hall
> > >>>>>>>> PO Box 951563
> > >>>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1563
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> (310) 825-7990
> > >>>>>>>> Dr.billgrisham at gmail.com<mailto:Dr.billgrisham at gmail.com
> > >>> <mailto:
> > >>>>>>>> Dr.billgrisham at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> *Ian A. Harrington, Ph.D.*
> > >>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>
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> > >>>> Tara L. White, Ph.D.
> > >>>> Assistant Professor
> > >>>> Laboratory of Affective Neuroscience
> > >>>> Department of Behavioral and Social Sciences
> > >>>> Center for Alcohol and Addiction Studies
> > >>>> Brown School of Public Health
> > >>>> Brown University
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